I want any other women reading this to know that your (Lone Voices) position is NOT biblical, and God created women to lead and teach men if he gifted them in those areas, and God created women to be equals with men in marriage. When the man takes charge and makes really good, well-thought-out (and prayed for) decisions, its pretty easy for 2. Anne Garboczi Evans, that is terrible! [redacted] never told the investigating deputy the truth about what was going on that night because Jamin told her they would both be arrested, and law enforcement would take their children away. Your testimonial will be added to this blog so that other people can benefit from and be inspired by your experiences with Christian Domestic Discipline. Im a happy happy wife! Anonymous, experience project.com, 12. For instance, those who practice domestic discipline often cite scripture that calls for wives to submit to their husbands. Somewhere out there, a guy is trotting around his living room on all fours, wearing a leather thong and nothing else but a saddle on his back. You are interpreting the Scriptures in error, just as the Pharisees did. In the 70s went screaming for Radio Talk Show Host to interview abused women in the church; we havent come far have we? Is it a Sin for a Christian Not to Live a HealthyLifestyle. The professionals are the ones to turn to. Resistance During a Spanking It makes complete sense that someone raised in this culture would extend it to domestic abuse. http://cryingoutforjustice.com/resources/safety-planning/, And if you havent yet started following our blog A Cry For Justice, we encourage you to do so. Christian Domestic Discipline, wife spanking, Christian Patriarchy Movement, Spanking of Adult Children, Denominational Practices and teachings Two summers ago, I received a phone call from a pastor who shared his growing concern about wife-spanking in his family of churches. Bike Bubba, when your wife dresses as a french maid, you still see her, albeit as a french maid, and not Kim Kardashian or some other woman (and I really fear for your taste as well Kim Kardashian of all people). As for Daisy putting a link to a feminist website, again, my point is made. Just like there are many realities behind the word marriage, there are many realities behind the term domestic discipline. christian domestic discipline I am not estranged from my parents but I did not get their support. None of us ever dared. Yes, that makes a lot of sense it was a normal progression for you. Michael is worried sick over his wife's whereabouts, and he's determined to put a stop to her irresponsible behavior. Then, they sign this document in the presence of lawyers, and witnesses (friends and/or parents of the woman). If you actually are a woman, how sad that you are participating in your own second-class status and actually defending it. A Husbands Guide to Implementing Christian Domestic Discipline. Or are women and little girls suppose to hurt to make Christian men feel good, I lived this life, it hurts so much. Please be careful if you are easily triggered by topics of abuse. Its quite amazing that she had the strength to leave. No wife who has ever been spanked by her husband submitted out of fear? It contains articles on spanking in marriage, as well as advice on leading the home. to conduct what is know as Risk Assessment and from there, in conjuction with the victim, develop a personalised safety plan. Uh oh. I offer personal advice and mentorship in marriage to men or women who contact me. Jamin usually keeps a pistol under the mattress and one on top of the refrigerator. Have a great day. But just like a chocolate addict will eat carob in moments of dire necessity. Since that law came out in 2004, I have yet to hear of a spanking incident as such, and I havent even seen anyone spank their child in public. This is a tool among others, people do not hit as a substitute for talking unlike what you suggest. What do you mean by Feminist site? Gen 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. Are there other women is situations this dire? Ben also has no problem spanking me long after I start to cry. A Husbands Guide to Implementing Christian Domestic Discipline. Until I left the house, with being petite along with their ideas of modesty, I still wore little girl style underpants. 4 and her father hears about her vow or pledge but says nothing to her, then all her vows and every pledge by which she obligated herself will stand. My husband tells me all the time how proud he is of the woman I have become. We continue to call it abuse, despite the fact that it happens between two consenting* adults, and we continue to prosecute those teachers who abuse their students. I wanted to know how did Lauren get from the point where wife spanking was considered normal to the place where she said, THIS IS WRONG it is ABUSE!. The woman you are concerned about is indeed at very high risk. christian domestic discipline When I read you, I see sincere people suffering sort of post-traumatic disorder. mysterious death, disappearance, ending up in a vegetative state in a nursing home) and been assured that they are powerful, well funded, technically and legally savvy and any efforts to move and change her identity are futile. Aspire to knowledge and aspire to love, declare yourself ignorant and humble and you will find justice and wisdom for God does not reveal himself to arrogant people and this is why you are in darkness on this matter. It seems like my husbands leadership skills have developed so strongly. Christian Domestic Discipline Thanks to a suggestion and my loving HOHs (head of households) permission it was a test spank. If kink is your thing, thats your thing, but dont sit there and try to convince me or anyone else you got kink from the Bible because you sure as heck did not. I thought the periods might have been missing letters for a larger word. Tell him to clear off out of your life. That is abuse in marriage. I have learned that he LOVES!! As far as this message is concerned I understand and respect your point. I debated putting this in the Godly ladies' thread but decided that I would risk my reputation to be thought of as forward because this is just too good to keep from men. He is refusing to let her seek treatment for her current injuries nor let her use pain relievers, ice-packs etc. 1 Peter 3:7. No-one ever gives a better interpretation, they just holler at me as if the one who shouts loudest must be right. I have neither the time (nor the talent) to write an entire book, so I'll recommend instead the following book. Note: 51% of standard marriages result in divorce DD marriage are maybe 1% Is it better to receive a spanking or get a divorce? I have always made a point of emphasizing how much I love and respect him for being our HOH and not falling into the trap that other men do. The ones who claim they enjoy it have psychological issues, but its not due to wanting to be abused that is sick. James truly believed in Are you officially divorced now? Then all the feminists have jumped around and yelled at me that I am mis-interpreting them. He can even be a bit bossy at times. Jamin then stated, I swear by anything, I did not grab her throat. maybe a directory of churches and communities, that still get it, would help . Anyone who can inspire such bitterness in us still has a hold over us. You already have biblical examples of women leading and preaching men such as Deobrah in the OT, Junia the Apostle, etc. Of course I think she deserved to get punished for complaining but I still felt bad for her. Im over 40 years of age and in charge of my own life. Continue reading. what happens if your HOH does something? Is that bad now too? Domestic Discipline So-called Christian domestic discipline occurs in a marriage when one or both partners use biblical support to rationalize an unscriptural and un-Christian lifestyle. Michael is worried sick over his wife's whereabouts, and he's determined to put a stop to her irresponsible behavior. Domestic Discipline When it comes to twisting, and even mistranslating, Scripture it is amazing how [s]ome people believe with great fervor preposterous things that just happen to coincide with their self-interest. Coleman v. CIR (791 F.2d 68 at 69 (7th Cir. But just like a chocolate addict will eat carob in moments of dire necessity. Anderson told Jamin it was strange and very uncommon, for someone to make a statement about having someone walk into their hand hard enough to leave marks on their throat. You are telling 100pinkapples that she needs to take a Christian response to her abusers and to her own pain, and to see a pastor for counselling. If you are currently living (or have lived) the Christian Domestic Discipline lifestyle and you would like to share how it has helped your marriage or relationship, please email your story and mention that you wish to share your experiences with other people. And if it wasnt enough, beyond this exceptional event its pretty clear that mockery is absolutely not the normal approached followed by preachers, teachers and prophets recorded in the Bible. There is no longer a power struggle between two people who both want to be in charge. It is a confession of our dependence on one another and an acceptance of our natural roles.Do you submit to the wishes of your boss? We were not married until I turned 19 though. Gods judgments from Gen 3:14 3:17 set matters straight, and gave the man more work into the bargain. That alone gives me a strong desire to please him.What I am trying to say is MENIf you lead she WILL follow, and she will be content in doing so. Anonymous, christiandomesticdiscipline.com, 5. As for the judgment here power imbalance, physically hurting your partner, enjoying hurting your partner, sexualizing the pain, making your partner believe that you are the good and right adult while she is the bad child who deserves punishment, etc. Another thing to bear in mind is that all Domestic Violence services are underfunded so the workers are vevy busy. I may be submissive, but Im no idiot doormat! Anonymous,experienceproject.com. My sister and brother continue to suffer as a result. So while I believe that Biblically speaking, married couples do have a great amount of freedom in how and when they make love, that does not extend to humiliation and injury. Our church was non-denominational but was charismatic and evangelical. Phone your appropriate holine and they will be able to refer you to DV services in your local area. I didnt see it as abuse. I can see from your posts that you have major issues with men, but please dont filter the Bible through your own experiences. Male rulership of women is common all over the world, because it is a result of sin entering humanity, just as God had predicted: God told the woman man would rule over her God was saying that was a result of the Fall. Youre the one admitting on a public blog that you like to be spanked. Resistance During a Spanking I was sexually terrorized as a little girl by a bible loving, bible verse quoting, church going southern Baptist Christian man as a little girl. Its not right. Christian Domestic Discipline / Spencer Respect and Submission in domestic discipline Respect and Submission are of particular importance in a marriage because the standard marriage vows for the bride always included the phrase to love, honor and obey her husband. (LogOut/ The best way to get help for high risk cases of domestic abuse is to ring the DV Hotline in your country. Its a logical progression. But when you seriously contend that there mere fact that our Lord appeared first to women and told them to tell the men negates the creation ordinance, Deborahs curse of wimpy Barak and the clear words of the Holy Spirit on this subject through the Apostle Paul, then I suggest you have really lost touch with the will of God. ), Lone Voice says, It seems that site is promoting equal rights for women. I do not normally comment on web forums, but I wanted to counter-balance this thread. Or were they connected with teachings similar to an article I wrote, Wife Undermines Her Husbands Authority in Front of Children, He DisciplinesHer? It got to the point that I would make myself cry almost as soon as he started to spank me and would get 3 swat spankings and a I hope in the future you remember this. I did cry as soon as possible. best leave 100PinkApples raging away because it suits your purpose better to have her stay unforgiving and bitter.. a forensic psychologist who evaluates and treats sexual psychopaths and is the author of a book on abuse. Here spanking children is not illegal per se, but it does have its limits. I wouldnt say the link I gave was to a feminist site so much as it is a Christian egalitarian site, the two not being the same thing. Except the exegeises you have been taught, does contradict. He took off his belt, bent me over the counter, lifted up my skirt and proceeded to give me exactly what I deserved. At least thats his justification but this is far far more severe than spankings. I soon found out that he was. They then work out a document, a 30-page document describing every aspect of the relationship (the superior/inferior nature and all its practical implications, when and how spanking is to be performed, what the man can and cannot do, what the woman can and cannot do etc).